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Does anyone know if any photos exist of 'Alf and Bart'. I was also wondering if the offices still exist? I had a look on Streetview and the area looks redeveloped, but maybe I'm wrong.


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If you mean the Odhams comics of the 60s, scorpion, I don't know about the comics offices, but I was shown the derelict site of their printing premises just outside Watford, by a friend who casually mentioned it as we passed.

[Ironically, he had no real interest in comics, but grew up in this area so he knew what he was talking about]---it was quite a bleak site/sight----all smashed windows, overgrown shrubbery and decaying brickwork.

I still would have loved a look around it, especially if some yellowed old 60s comics were still evident.

That was in the early 90s, and I've never been back in the area, so I don't know if it still exists---it seemed quite a big printing works, in tandem with the mass production of the 60s era.


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Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:02 pm
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According to Comics UK contributor Pendragon, himself a Fleetway sub-editor, 'Alf' Wallace can be seen on both these Top Spot covers (apparently he's the bare-chested hunk on no.1 and the chap with 'something to shout about' on no.2).

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'Bart' was Eagle editor Bob Bartholomew. I think his photo has appeared in Eagle Times.

As for the offices at 64 Long Acre I'm pretty sure the building itself still exists.

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That's fascinating. Thanks very much for your replies, taking the time to post those scans, and for the welcome.

I must admit I always pictured Alf and Bart as two much older men. These pics of Alf are extraordinary for me.

I wonder if they are both still with us. They would be absolute gold to have as guests at a future British Comic Convention.


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There was a picture of Alf in the Power Comics themselves - on The News From The Floor of 64 page.


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Yes. I thought I could remember something along those lines. Wasn't he shown accepting an award from the Guardian newspaper? (...on account of Fantastic being judged the most 'educational' new publication for children! :shock: )

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Wasn't he shown accepting an award from the Guardian newspaper?
Perception and acknowledgement of quality in others, beyond its usual remit, from my must-read daily paper, sadly much-maligned, on these forums at least.


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I still seem to remember something about an award that may or may not have been presented by the Guardian but the photo I was thinking of apparently came from The Observer (which many people think of as the 'Sunday Guardian' anyway).

Here's Alf - a few years older and looking far more dapper in his corporate suit - as he appeared in the press cutting reproduced in Fantastic no.5.

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(...I'm not sure what slant The Observer gave to the accompanying article but one can't help noticing the ominous mention of 'KLACK!' and 'THUD!' :roll: )

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...And here's Steve Holland's fascinating take on the story behind that Guardian 'award'!

http://bearalley.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06 ... power.html

- Phil R. :shock:


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I gets more fascinating with every post. I don't remember other editors using their real names in comics (except in the 70s by people like Dez Skinn). They always seemed to call themselves 'Ed'. Am I wrong about that?


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I still seem to remember something about an award that may or may not have been presented by the Guardian but the photo I was thinking of apparently came from The Observer (which many people think of as the 'Sunday Guardian' anyway).
Here's Alf - a few years older and looking far more dapper in his corporate suit - as he appeared in the press cutting reproduced in Fantastic no.5.
- Phil Rushton

Here's the screenshot (from a PDF) of the column that accompanied the picture by Jane Brown of Alf. Image
and also another copy of the picture from the Observer 1967 January 15 page 40 ("The Back Page")Image


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