This week's issue

[stevezodiac]

Its happening with Newspapers as well - lots of them have full page ads on the back covers which I'll never get used to.

[Digifiend]

Magazines maybe, but not newspapers. Those usually have sports news on the back cover. If there is an advert, it won't be a full page one.

[meherenow]

Magazines maybe, but not newspapers. Those usually have sports news on the back cover. If there is an advert, it won't be a full page one.

The "i" and The Independent (on Sunday) certainly have full page ads on the back cover of every issue, and not just in-house ones either.

It does annoy me that recently some advert in the middle pages is deemed to be a "free poster" with The Beano - definately didn't fool my 5 year old anyway!

[Digifiend]

If the cover price doesn't go up, then there's probably no gift, whatever they claim. In the case of the Green Lantern poster, it was actually two of the normal pages, so all it did was push Bash Street off it's normal slot... it wasn't a free gift, it was an advert. Even Smiffy would know that. If even a five year old isn't fooled, they're clearly underestimating children's intelligence. They need to be less patronising.

[stevezodiac]

I buy the Times on Saturday and it often has a full page ad on the back cover as does the free Metro paper and City AM. Hasn't happened with the Red Tops yet though.

[STARBOY]

A few local papers in my area (Hamilton - Glasgow) have front and back pages with ads (usually a car showroom etc) with the real front page on page 3 (if that makes sense (the title of the paper is on the front page ad and on page 3 with the real headlines ) I even bought a Marvel comic recenlty that had an ad on the fist normal story page (it was for the MARVEL the X Men movie or PC game all the same) and in the 70s Harvey comics all had adverts on page 3 not quite the back cover but a US comics all have back cover ads so this was even worse

[Digifiend]

My local free paper, the Hull Advertiser, has false covers with adverts on the front and back sometimes too. I wouldn't expect to see that on one you pay for though.

[swirlythingy]

I was a bit narked by the "free poster" thing as well! Lately, the Beano's been going out of its way to make adverts come across as normal parts of the comic, and frankly I'm not surprised even five-year-olds aren't fooled. Has anyone else noticed that most recent issues of the Beano (those which contain any adverts at all - the advert count's been a bit of a roller-coaster these last few weeks!) contain a front page sell for an advertisement inside, as if it were something to buy the comic about? (This is quite an old tradition, but it's only now the sells have been so prominent - formerly, it was typically limited to the text above the title reading, "Great Brand Name Here Prizes To Be Won - Inside!")

The thing about two-page adverts, which marketing execs plainly don't understand if they're prepared to pay top dollar for them, is that they actually attract less attention than only one page. If there's a comic strip on the opposite page, then there's a chance I might cast my eye over the advert. But if I turn the page and see nothing but an advert, I'll go straight onto the next page and not pay it a single glance! This goes for two-pagers in newspapers too - the Guardian carries quite a lot of them, as well as always having an advert on the back page (because the sports news is in a supplement instead of the back pages these days).

I'm guessing DCT know this, hence the amount of attention they try to draw to such adverts (such as branding them "free posters", and putting their pagination where their mouth is by carefully making sure only their own ads, instead of comics, appear on what would have been the back of the poster). This may also have something to do with the fact that two separate comic strips never appear on opposite pages in the Beano any more (with the exception of Freddie Fear/Super School a couple of weeks ago, but that was plainly covering for unsold ad slots), with the other page always being either an advert or filler.

Changing fashions in advertising intrigue me - in the case of older comics, sometimes almost as much as the strips themselves. For example, there is a very clear divide on the week that junk food advertising aimed at children was outlawed - it had hitherto formed about 75% of the Beano's ad content! Reading Beanos from 2001, when practically every issue contained adverts for Turkey Twizzlers and Sunny Delight, is quite an experience.

There was also a vogue, from at least the early 1990s up to the early 2000s, for adverts in the form of comic strips masquerading as part of the comic itself. In many cases, these were lent added fascination by the use of artists who actually drew some regular strips in the comic at the time. For instance, one of the last survivors, a pseudo-strip series for Milky Way, which was still around in 2004, was drawn by Nigel Parkinson. There was also a relatively long-running advert for BN biscuits, with a new 'strip' every week; I don't know the artist's name, but he was also drawing Korky the Cat at the time (about 2001) and was one of Tom Paterson's semi-regular ghosters on Minnie the Minx later on.

The pseudo-strip era, of course, had a revival recently, with Diego being employed by Lego (who seem to have taken over from Bernard Matthews as the Beano's most regular purchasers of promotions and ad pages). But I think my favourite comic advert series of all time was not a strip, as such, but a rather beautifully illustrated ongoing saga called "Search for the Rowntree" (all about Fruit Pastilles and such, so wouldn't be allowed today). I still don't know how it ended - it could be I'm simply missing the right issues of the Beano and Dandy (it ran in both comics simultaneously), or maybe Rowntree simply decided to pull the plug. (See what I did there?)

EDIT: Some interesting points here which are worthy of its own thread which I have started under a topic called Adverts in the Beano (http://comicsuk.co.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4287) - Al

[colcool007]

These pseudo strips have been going a heck of a lot longer than merely the 90's. Check out Lew's blog regarding some of these strips from the 60's and 70's. The ones that always catch my eye now are the old Ministry of Health ones that tried to persuade teens not to smoke as it meant you could afford a Lambretta, get the girl, have the greatest LP collection... Zimmer frame-time methinks as the younger ones ask what's an LP and a Lambretta?

[Scoobie]

I was a bit narked by the "free poster" thing as well! Lately, the Beano's been going out of its way to make adverts come across as normal parts of the comic, and frankly I'm not surprised even five-year-olds aren't fooled. Has anyone else noticed that most recent issues of the Beano (those which contain any adverts at all - the advert count's been a bit of a roller-coaster these last few weeks!) contain a front page sell for an advertisement inside, as if it were something to buy the comic about? (This is quite an old tradition, but it's only now the sells have been so prominent - formerly, it was typically limited to the text above the title reading, "Great Brand Name Here Prizes To Be Won - Inside!")

With regards to the thread title, only that paragraph contains any meaningful reference to 'This Week's Issue'.

If you must write an essay on the life and times of Beano advertising, could you please start a new thread. That way I'll know to avoid it, rather than having it shoved down my throat.

[-MikeD-]

With regards to the thread title, only that paragraph contains any meaningful reference to 'This Week's Issue'.

If you must write an essay on the life and times of Beano advertising, could you please start a new thread. That way I'll know to avoid it, rather than having it shoved down my throat.

...and this, ladies and gentlemen, is the type of post that is ruining this forum - aggressive, confrontational and pointless. Where's the ban hammer?

[Scoobie]

No it isn't.

I was being honest and forthright. Who wants to read all that? It's ridiculous and it's completely off-topic as well. Start a new thread with it or don't bother.

I've not been here for over 3 weeks, a promise I made to one of the administrators, but I can't let that pass. And if that's not good enough for you, well that's your own lasagne.

And it's not big or clever to purposely try to get someone else banned. I've never asked for that young gentleman to be banned, ever, I rather he showed restraint and stick to the facts. And let opinions be opinions.

Now, tell me, what's so wrong with that? Actually, don't bother as you'll be hijacking the thread too.

[Digifiend]

You do realise that's a Dandy artist you're talking to?

[Al]

Some interesting points from Swirly up there which are worthy of its own thread. I have started a new thread using Swirly's original post as a starter, under a topic called Adverts in the Beano (http://comicsuk.co.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4287).

It's also an attempt to diffuse the situation - Al

[Scoobie]

You do realise that's a Dandy artist you're talking to?

And your point is, caller?

Some interesting points from Swirly up there which are worthy of its own thread. I have started a new thread using Swirly's original post as a starter, under a topic called Adverts in the Beano (http://comicsuk.co.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4287).

It's also an attempt to diffuse the situation - Al

Perfect.