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And little illustrates it better than reaching the dubious milestone (or should that be millstone?) of 1000 posts on this site.

I try and make my posts so that I am adding something to people's knowledge of comics or a way of grabbing some more information to add to mine and I hope that in the main my posts either entertain or educate or even both at times.

My love for comics has been with me since I can remember. While I am not quite old enough to remember the Big Five, my brothers and I had our own version with Wizard, Warlord, Hotspur and Victor making their weekly visitation with Commando rounding the month off nicely. So no real surprise that I am a dyed in the wool DCT fan, but IPC put their temptation in our way and we read Battle, Action, 2000AD and the odd other comic. Very rarely can I say that I have met a comic that I didn't like.

I have dallied with the US comics, but men from another planet and invincible? Come on! Bites from radioactive spiders I could just about deal with and rather dodgy lab experiments could get by at a push as well, but the whole US genre was never something that I could relate to living in rural Scotland where the Broons and Oor Wullie weren't inventions of R D Low, but us and our neighbours! And we used the Doric so we didn't need anyone to tell us that The Broons wur awa' neeping, as we would do that as well!

Watching the comics fade away one by one was saddening for me as they were my childhood friends leaving me all alone, but I held tightly onto the Annuals and to this day I still have all my Warlord annuals! I read phoenix's post as he listed the demise of the comics year by year and it amazed me that I could list those dates in my head without reference to any source material.

Reading the same comics now that I read as a child is an amazing experience as it is the only time-travelling device found so far that can actually take you back 30 or so years. I can remember places where I read them and what I was doing before and after. There are few items as evocative of memory as your childhood comics.

The commentary on social change astounds me as when we look at the stories (Alf Tupper, Twisty, Look Out For Lefty, Tasker, Dozy Danny and many more) with the idea that having a dysfunctional family (Aunt Meg, Twisty's uncle, Lefty's Grandad) was not considered as a good thing, whereas now, it not only is accepted, but treated as something to be pitied and cured. The idea of people sleeping rough only (a device used in most of the stories mentioned) goes to show how much the more things change, the more they stay the same. (Current stats for homeless are 95000, whereas in 1966, it was 11000)

It's also interesting to look around the homes of these characters. Few had phones or cars. No-one ever had a computer. Their idea of a playstation was the compendium set of 100 games at Christmas!

Wow, what a monster post and I haven't even said anything about how my perception of comics has changed over the years! I think I'll leave that to another post. Perhaps my 2000th! :lol:
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this is the only post on here that succeeded in making the hairs on the back of my neck literally stand up on end, Col.......
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colcool007 Your 1000 post quiz.

My earliest Victor.

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Can you imagine an Air Rifle ad in one of todays comics. :shock:

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Cover artist - Keith Shone
Maldon's Millions - Josep Marti

Right, that's me out! I throw the contest open! Incidentally, that is one of the issues that I need to get my hands on to complete my run of the 90's. Currently watching it on Ebay...

I take it that no-one minds if I further expound on how comics have shaped my life then?
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colcool007 wrote: I take it that no-one minds if I further expound on how comics have shaped my life then?
Not in the slightest, Col. Fire away.
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colcool007 wrote:And little illustrates it better than reaching the dubious milestone (or should that be millstone?) of 1000 posts on this site. :lol:
Nothing dubious about it at all Col. Milk it to the max.
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colcool007 wrote:Cover artist - Keith Shone
Maldon's Millions - Josep Marti

Right, that's me out!
Sorry to slightly spoil the party Col but while you're right about Marti the artist for the cover strip wasn't Keith Shone but Alan Philpott.
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Kashgar wrote: Had this been my 1000th post quiz Steel Claw I would have gotten 100% (honest) but as it wasn't I won't!


Go on, be a devil, put him out of his misery. If it's winning the prize you are concerned about, don't worry, it'll only be a virtual thing so you won't see it anyway. You are talking to someone who knows about these things. I'm still waiting for the virtual pint that Captain Storm promised me. Mind you, I suppose that he could argue that he's already sent it to me. Mmm, now there's a thought. Shades of Moonbase Alpha when Tony was contemplating creating beer out of antimatter hops when Lynne Frederick's character Shameen banned him from Hydroponics.
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Kashgar wrote:
colcool007 wrote:Cover artist - Keith Shone
Maldon's Millions - Josep Marti

Right, that's me out!
Sorry to slightly spoil the party Col but while you're right about Marti the artist for the cover strip wasn't Keith Shone but Alan Philpott.
Had this been my 1000th post quiz Steel Claw I would have gotten 100% (honest) but as it wasn't I won't!
Not a problem, Kashgar. I am always amazed at how much colouring changes the look of an artist's work. Some I can get right away like Matias Alonso or Ted Rawlings, but others have me hemming and hawing as I try to spot who is the actual artist. And as Phoenix says, put me out of my misery! Still 50% right isn't too shabby!
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Part 2...

A certain someone noticed that I had said virtually nothing about my family and how they have contributed or changed my perceptions. So I thought that I would change that now.

First off, two of my brothers have mentioned comics to me in the last 12 months. One is a working man and he bought the Commandos previously mentioned from his wages. He also bought most of the Red Daggers and all three of the True War Stories. He has most of the Victor annuals and is still an avid fan of Harry Farruga's work on Bob Millar. While my brother is a lot closer to his pension than I am by a fair margin, he has been a fan of Victor from day one until its demise.

The other still whinges like anything that his Warlord collection went missing after he left home, but then again, he whinges about most things! :lol: But 30 years on, it still has a big impact on his memories.

The first Mrs colcool took my collection on sufferance and put up with it as I only got 2 comics, 2000AD and Megazine. The second Mrs colcool has a totally different attitude. As she fondly remembers her comics, and she knows how much they gave her an escape from a childhood that was more endured than lived, the attitude is understandable. So for her, comics are a part of her life and mean a heck of a lot more to her than they do to me as she has invested heavy emotion in her comics.

We frequently discuss comics and it helps to formulate some of my responses on the board. In fact it was part of what brought us together. And she has the unique distinction of being the only female voice in the Radio 4 Alf Tupper documentary that was made a few years ago.

The love of comics hasn't skipped a generation as Little Miss colcool regularly picks up a Beano with her pocket money because Dad reads comics and that's good enough for her! One of the other Miss colcool's reckons that the Misty collection belongs to her and not her Mum!

In fact comics helped us to set up our prenuptials. The one that leaves home get the kids and the one that stays gets the comics! :lol:

Another monster post and I still haven't got round to mentioning my changing perceptions! More anon.
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Part 3.

It's Father's Day, pressies have been opened and the kids have bought me small things from their pocket money. How sweet is that? A traditional way of pressies coming to Dad and that brings me nicely onto my topic.

In 1974, a new comic blasted it's way onto the mean streets of Kirriemuir and it changed a lot of things. For one, it was grittier, there was slightly more robust language, the artwork was darker and there was a coward for a hero. No, it wasn't Cadman, but Warlord. It was certainly a departure for DCT to have a weekly comic aimed exclusively at war stories, but the 70's was seeing the beginning of the end for what was considered the traditional weekly adventure comic. After all, why buy it, when you could see it for nothing on your 21" colour TV? (That was considered the height of flash in those days and caused considerably more excitement than someone buying a 42" flat screen today)

Now, why was this so different from the other comics? Well, for one, all the stories revolved around War be it the North West Frontier, World War One or World War Two.

First off, we had the return of an old favourite in the form of Union Jack Jackson, as previously featured on the Daily Page. Re-scripted and re-drawn, it still reads well, 50 years after it was first written. The art was more implicit in showing the violence, including two of the main characters slugging it out! it had been done before with the fighting Sgts in Jag! but this time, the fighters were supposed to be friends!

Next up, we had another DCT staple with Matt Braddock taking to the air. As Braddock was a rebel from the start of his career in the Rover, his story was well suited to Warlord. And with lovely art from Keith Shone, who could argue with its inclusion?

Then we had Weapons In Action, where an item of equipment was illustrated to show its use. In this case, it was the 'toffe-apple' bombs or sticky bombs, where a grenade was coated with a glue like substance so that it would stick to the target and most of the force would be directed onto the target instead of being dissipated when it landed on the ground.

A little bit of traditional fare came next with a true story being written in text format over two pages. Our example in Warlord No 1 was Cdr Fegen took his out-gunned vessel Jervis Bay up against the pocket battleship Admiral Scheer. With two lovely pictures by that past master, Terry Patrick.

Next up was Wingless Wonder, when a World War Two Swordfish was badly damaged and was converted into a floating fighting machine to fight against the marauding Japanese forces. Shades of the true 'Mimi' story when in World War One, an aircraft was converted likewise by 67 Sqn and harassed Turkish forces on the Dead Sea.

Then came the main feature, a nine page (yes nine!) story of how Lord Peter Flint became the greatest British secret agent of World War Two. But to maintain his secret identity, Flint had to hold the pose of a card carrying coward in Britain.

Another old favourite returned in the form of the Wolf Of Kabul. This story concentrated on the schooldays of Bill Samson. While a date was never mentioned, I always assumed that it was based during the Afghan Wars of the 1800's. This story was also useful in identifying how Chung gained his favourite weapon of Clicky-Ba!

The comic rounded up with the origin story of Spider Wells and how he rose from being an under-aged kid hiding from killing his step-father to become a pilot in the fledging RFC.

All in all 36 pages of comic goodness for only 5 new pence!

Looking at Warlord now, one can be forgiven for thinking it a bit tame, but at the time, it was ground-breaking. The characters were stronger, the evil deeds of our heroes or our villains were shown more often (again a novelty) and it led directly to three comics being created. While I don't propose that Warlord was the inspiration, I do propose that Warlord was the catalyst that caused IPC to fight for comic-stand space with the advent of Battle and mere five months later and we know which comics Battle led us to.

On that note, an apocryphal story is that the Senior Editor of the Boys Division at IPC walked into a weekly meeting, slammed down a copy of Warlord and asked his Editors why did IPC not have a comic like this!

I will get round to talking about perceptions in more depth, but I keep getting distracted. :lol:
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I will get round to talking about perceptions in more depth, but I keep getting distracted.
No you don't, you keep distracting yourself, usually when you're trying to talk me into making your tea when I'm revising because I'm nearer the kitchen! Hello... revising here. :tongue: Oh well, that's out the window as an excuse now, no more revising for at least a year!
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Valeera wrote:
I will get round to talking about perceptions in more depth, but I keep getting distracted.
No you don't, you keep distracting yourself, usually when you're trying to talk me into making your tea when I'm revising because I'm nearer the kitchen! Hello... revising here. :tongue: Oh well, that's out the window as an excuse now, no more revising for at least a year!
Tea is not why I get distracted. I would put the reason on here, but this is a family friendly forum, so I won't...

I was going to put on a lucid and intelligent post on now, but herself has managed to break my chain of thought, so I will leave it until tomorrow. :D
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She's one hell of a woman, that Valeera!!!!!!
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