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And, at the time, BeanoMark scolded you for your "tantamount to libel" comment, demanding you take it back, as DCT had clearly stated that this was the last: "What I didn't like was Digifiend's implication that DCT are seeing how sales of the Last Summer Special go and then go back on their 'word' that it was the last ever, by producing another one next year. Plus he has absolutely no proof or any track record of DCT ever doing that. It's disgusting, and he knows it."Digifiend wrote:I did say at the time that they probably shouldn't have called it that!
Well Mark's no longer here to defend himself but if you read the whole thread he was reacting to Digi suggesting that DC Thomson were calling it the 'Last Ever' special as a deliberate lie (or 'fib' as Digi put it). There were no intentions to do another at the time.Raven wrote:I said at the time: "Maybe it'll be the last ever Dandy Summer Special in the same way that Friday the 13th Part 4 was The Final Chapter."
And, at the time, BeanoMark scolded you for your "tantamount to libel" comment, demanding you take it back, as DCT had clearly stated that this was the last: "What I didn't like was Digifiend's implication that DCT are seeing how sales of the Last Summer Special go and then go back on their 'word' that it was the last ever, by producing another one next year. Plus he has absolutely no proof or any track record of DCT ever doing that. It's disgusting, and he knows it."Digifiend wrote:I did say at the time that they probably shouldn't have called it that!
I think you've been vindicated, Mr. Fiend!
What Digi said was " I hope it sells well enough to make a fib out of its title", which was rather positive, implying that it wasn't a deliberate lie but dependent on sales, that the title would then be rendered a fib, and saying he hoped it did well enough that what has happened would happen.Lew Stringer wrote: Well Mark's no longer here to defend himself but if you read the whole thread he was reacting to Digi suggesting that DC Thomson were calling it the 'Last Ever' special as a deliberate lie (or 'fib' as Digi put it) ... If a company changes its mind 12 months later and decides to revive the special it's not a fib is it?
There's no comparison between the two events, as you know. How can Eagle merging with Lion be a "lie"?Lew Stringer wrote: Unless you also think that IPC were deliberately lying in 1969 when they folded Eagle, only to bring it back in 1982.
As we know, a merger between comics is just for appearances sake. It really means one comic has folded. IPC genuinely thought they were publishing the last Eagle in 1969, unaware that it would be revived years later. Now, the 13 years of that gap is a lot wider than the one year between this "last" special and the next, but my comparison is the same. No one thought IPC were lying in 1969, because they weren't. And DCT didn't lie last year, as implied.Raven wrote:There's no comparison between the two events, as you know. How can Eagle merging with Lion be a "lie"?Lew Stringer wrote: Unless you also think that IPC were deliberately lying in 1969 when they folded Eagle, only to bring it back in 1982.
It was to combine as many readers as possible from each comic. I doubt they were that bothered about appearances!Lew Stringer wrote: As we know, a merger between comics is just for appearances sake.
Yes, but they didn't sell a special on the strength of it being a historical event "LAST EVER ISSUE OF EAGLE", did they? It just merged with little palaver.Lew Stringer wrote: It really means one comic has folded. IPC genuinely thought they were publishing the last Eagle in 1969, unaware that it would be revived years later.
Somewhat...Lew Stringer wrote: Now, the 13 years of that gap is a lot wider than the one year between this "last" special
Exactly. Sales of the "Last Ever" Special were so good that another Special has been produced the next year. And, again, Digi said he hoped it "would make a fib out of its title", which is not the same as saying that DCT were lying. (Fib is also a much gentler word than lie, implying it's an unimportant one.)Lew Stringer wrote: OK, forget comparisons. Here's the facts: last year, that Dandy special was intended to be the "Last Ever". No fib. Since then, WH Smith have been so impressed with its sales that they suggested to Thomsons that it'd be a good idea to do another.
Raven wrote: Exactly. Sales of the "Last Ever" Special were so good that another Special has been produced the next year. And, again, Digi said he hoped it "would make a fib out of its title", which is not the same as saying that DCT were lying. (Fib is also a much gentler word than lie, implying it's an unimportant one.)
Simply because it seems quite amusing that "The Last Ever Dandy Holiday Special" should be followed the next year with a "Back By Popular Demand!" new one, and, with the passage of time (a full year or so), also quite amusing that someone should have taken such absolute umbrage at the very suggestion that this might possibly happen.Lew Stringer wrote: I don't know why you've dragged it up again as it caused a lot of ill-feeling last year.
That's not quite what happened. I think any "absolute umbrage" last year was solely about the suggestion of a company's dishonesty, not that a comic might produce another special.Raven wrote:Simply because it seems quite amusing that "The Last Ever Dandy Holiday Special" should be followed the next year with a "Back By Popular Demand!" new one, and, with the passage of time (a full year or so), also quite amusing that someone should have taken such absolute umbrage at the very suggestion that this might possibly happen.Lew Stringer wrote: I don't know why you've dragged it up again as it caused a lot of ill-feeling last year.